_TrueFacts
09-03 02:21 PM
pls keep your social discussions away from this website. I think its a waste of resource to having this thread exist in the first place.
One more preacher! How does it matter? If IIM Bangalore can have a discussion on Women Rights and all are invited why not we people on a public forum.
If you have a point, say so..
One more preacher! How does it matter? If IIM Bangalore can have a discussion on Women Rights and all are invited why not we people on a public forum.
If you have a point, say so..
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nojoke
12-12 04:36 PM
I don't think anything like that will happen ..first of all it is not easy at all ..definitely many will leave (especially lot of people who just crossed the borders are moving back and the joke is that they are building a wall to prevent people from leaving :)).
but I do think that one way or the other something will happen in terms of faster immigration in the next year ..or else I don't know from where will they find so many buyers of houses ..look at this article about Georgia ,..which people kept saying -- that there is no bubble .
(look at the print in bold ..I am still wondering if it is a misprint or real ..117 months supply of homes !!! ..the other funny point is that bankers are running after builders with hot rods :D).
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The housing market is so bad that some banks and builders that had been business partners are now adversaries, and experts are using the dreaded �D� word.
�In northeast Georgia we�re not in a housing recession, we�re in a housing depression,� Jim Williams, president of Southern Highlands Mortgage in Blairsville, told state lawmakers at a daylong hearing Wednesday. �The retiree market, the secondary market has all but dried up. There are no homes being built.�
� Your guide to metro Atlanta foreclosures
BUSINESS
Likewise, Eugene James, head of the Atlanta division of the research company Metrostudy, said the 22 metro counties it covers �are in a housing depression right now.�
James said sales closings were down 44 percent for the third quarter, compared to the same period last year, and housing starts had plunged 67 percent. The metro area also has about 148,000 lots with infrastructure but no homes � a 117-month supply, he said.
Legislators are trying to figure out what they can do to encourage home buying and rescue residential builders. The General Assembly convenes next month, and new bills might be introduced calling for tax incentives, expanded down payment assistance or reductions in home building regulations.
�A down payment assistance obviously would be very, very beneficial to citizens,� Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle said after speaking to the joint economic development committee.
A federal down payment assistance program ended last fall and the current state down payment assistance program, Georgia Dream, is limited.
Sen. Chip Pearson (R-Dawsonville), co-chairman of the meeting, was intrigued by a California rescue plan that Chuck Fuhr, Ryland Homes� Atlanta division president, described.
In the 1990s, the California Public Employees� Retirement System began making loans to home builders and investing in residential projects in order to turn around that state�s faltering housing market, Fuhr said. The CalPERS program was so successful, it expanded out of state, he said.
�Almost every small builder I know today has his bank knocking on the door, trying to collect his loan and put him out of business,� Fuhr said. If builders continue to fold, competition will lessen and home prices will escalate, he said.
Kurt Cannon, president of Rabun Builders and the Home Builders Association of Georgia, said at the hearing that worried bankers have turned on builders, even those with good credit, by calling in loans and threatening to sue.
Cannon presented several pages of e-mails he�s received. A Paulding County builder wrote: �The president of the bank replied back that five of the seven bank presidents in the county had lost their jobs and he was not going to lose his. �I am going to foreclose on the property you have here. Then I am going to come after you personally and sue you for the money you owe me and everything else you have.��
Maybe you are right. But I think that the main problem is not housing. It is the export/import imbalance, manufacturing jobs(maybe other jobs) leaving US etc. The housing boom, which was selling and buying to each other at higher and higher prices, masked the real problem in the economy. Government can do all it can to stop the house price sliding, but then what? We cannot generate economy again by buying and selling house to each other. People are asking 'where are the real jobs?'
but I do think that one way or the other something will happen in terms of faster immigration in the next year ..or else I don't know from where will they find so many buyers of houses ..look at this article about Georgia ,..which people kept saying -- that there is no bubble .
(look at the print in bold ..I am still wondering if it is a misprint or real ..117 months supply of homes !!! ..the other funny point is that bankers are running after builders with hot rods :D).
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The housing market is so bad that some banks and builders that had been business partners are now adversaries, and experts are using the dreaded �D� word.
�In northeast Georgia we�re not in a housing recession, we�re in a housing depression,� Jim Williams, president of Southern Highlands Mortgage in Blairsville, told state lawmakers at a daylong hearing Wednesday. �The retiree market, the secondary market has all but dried up. There are no homes being built.�
� Your guide to metro Atlanta foreclosures
BUSINESS
Likewise, Eugene James, head of the Atlanta division of the research company Metrostudy, said the 22 metro counties it covers �are in a housing depression right now.�
James said sales closings were down 44 percent for the third quarter, compared to the same period last year, and housing starts had plunged 67 percent. The metro area also has about 148,000 lots with infrastructure but no homes � a 117-month supply, he said.
Legislators are trying to figure out what they can do to encourage home buying and rescue residential builders. The General Assembly convenes next month, and new bills might be introduced calling for tax incentives, expanded down payment assistance or reductions in home building regulations.
�A down payment assistance obviously would be very, very beneficial to citizens,� Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle said after speaking to the joint economic development committee.
A federal down payment assistance program ended last fall and the current state down payment assistance program, Georgia Dream, is limited.
Sen. Chip Pearson (R-Dawsonville), co-chairman of the meeting, was intrigued by a California rescue plan that Chuck Fuhr, Ryland Homes� Atlanta division president, described.
In the 1990s, the California Public Employees� Retirement System began making loans to home builders and investing in residential projects in order to turn around that state�s faltering housing market, Fuhr said. The CalPERS program was so successful, it expanded out of state, he said.
�Almost every small builder I know today has his bank knocking on the door, trying to collect his loan and put him out of business,� Fuhr said. If builders continue to fold, competition will lessen and home prices will escalate, he said.
Kurt Cannon, president of Rabun Builders and the Home Builders Association of Georgia, said at the hearing that worried bankers have turned on builders, even those with good credit, by calling in loans and threatening to sue.
Cannon presented several pages of e-mails he�s received. A Paulding County builder wrote: �The president of the bank replied back that five of the seven bank presidents in the county had lost their jobs and he was not going to lose his. �I am going to foreclose on the property you have here. Then I am going to come after you personally and sue you for the money you owe me and everything else you have.��
Maybe you are right. But I think that the main problem is not housing. It is the export/import imbalance, manufacturing jobs(maybe other jobs) leaving US etc. The housing boom, which was selling and buying to each other at higher and higher prices, masked the real problem in the economy. Government can do all it can to stop the house price sliding, but then what? We cannot generate economy again by buying and selling house to each other. People are asking 'where are the real jobs?'
new2gc
09-04 12:03 PM
Dont just fool by news and be little skeptical . All system(media, politician ) is so corrupted. You never know, This may be manufactured news, labeling natural deaths across AP to Shock/suide to make easy road for his son to be CM....
well said... just all the heart attacks deaths that day, they are accounting to YSR news.
All YSR aides wants his son as CM just because they do not want issues witht he current deals they have in projects...
Hope his son learns the lesson, how many crores he might own, they won't come to help if his time comes. he should be happy by now with what they LOOTED.
YSR will be richest person in the world (not just India) if his asserts are brought to light.
well said... just all the heart attacks deaths that day, they are accounting to YSR news.
All YSR aides wants his son as CM just because they do not want issues witht he current deals they have in projects...
Hope his son learns the lesson, how many crores he might own, they won't come to help if his time comes. he should be happy by now with what they LOOTED.
YSR will be richest person in the world (not just India) if his asserts are brought to light.
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thepaew
05-29 09:06 AM
As far as i can tell, the main issue is that there are not enough visas for Indian applicants. The possible EB1 misuse is a sideshow.
Currently, the EB2-I wait time is 20+ years. Even if there are no EB1 applications the wait time would reduce to 10+ years. EB3-I wait time is probably more than the life span of most individuals.
Currently, the EB2-I wait time is 20+ years. Even if there are no EB1 applications the wait time would reduce to 10+ years. EB3-I wait time is probably more than the life span of most individuals.
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Hassan11
07-12 09:13 AM
I am not sure if this is true or false but I thought to share. it might be a good news for July filers:
07/12/2007: USCIS Reportedly Returning Visa Numbers to DOS
AILA has reported that when Rep. Lofgren issued a letter to Secretary Chertoff, she also disclosed that "It has also come to my attention that USCIS began returning visa numbers to the State Depaartment as early as Thrusday, July 5, 2007." It could be the answer to our question why they are holding July filing cases and why they stopped adjudicating 485 cases for which they pull out the numbers before July 2, 2007. What a mess!
07/12/2007: USCIS Reportedly Returning Visa Numbers to DOS
AILA has reported that when Rep. Lofgren issued a letter to Secretary Chertoff, she also disclosed that "It has also come to my attention that USCIS began returning visa numbers to the State Depaartment as early as Thrusday, July 5, 2007." It could be the answer to our question why they are holding July filing cases and why they stopped adjudicating 485 cases for which they pull out the numbers before July 2, 2007. What a mess!
lazycis
02-13 01:11 PM
WDude, Googler, I am not against removing per country limits. But we need to have a cool head, think straight, objective and use facts. I just think it will be next to impossible to change the INA to remove those quotas so it's better to concentrate efforts on 1) visa recapture; 2) EB quota increase. Visas were lost mostly because of NC issue.
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Lasantha
02-13 12:00 PM
LOL - Which side are you on though? There are two schools of thought in this thread. :cool:
I am also with you guys.
Tinku:rolleyes:
I am also with you guys.
Tinku:rolleyes:
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mundada
06-12 05:11 PM
I hear you buddy but that is what America is and that is what makes America so great. The constant flow of immigrants will always require you to keep upgrading your skills and hence your salary.
The moment you were forced to enroll in MBA in an effort to upgrade your skills and increase your salary means American model and (comparative advantage) economics are working.
The same thing happened in agriculture, then manufacturing, and now IT and other industries. It is inevitable!
By the way, it is not dumping. Here is the real definition of dumping, "the act of a manufacturer in one country exporting a product to another country at a price which is either below the price it charges in its home market or is below its costs of production".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping_(pricing_policy)
For your information, I was, am and will most likely continue to be affected by the outsourcing/offshoring/onshoring/immigration/etc.
I am simply stumped at the level of comprehension of the folks right here. Let me summarize my views as points and hopefully I will get through to you guys
1. My mention of BITS was not to prove that I was the best and the brightest. It was to prove that my education was NOT subsidized by the govt of India directly or indirectly. Remember passing out of any university doesnt confer the title of the best and the brightest. Unseenguy - If you have kicked the ass of IITians, bitsians etc then consider yourselves genuine. Why this unnecessary trip down "Not confident about myself lane" ?
2. My mention of MSFT was again not to prove that I am part of the best and rightest. It was to prove that I came here not with the value proposition of low costs but with the value proposition of hardwork and some talent. I did not compromise on my pay or did replace any native employee. Oh BTW I left MSFT in 2000
3. My mention of the 3 layoffs and my journey was to inform you guys that whatever is happening now is similar to whatever happened in 2001. I wanted to calm down the nerves of the genuine people. Without reading and comprehending the posts, I get responses like that I was an illegal. Remember I was taken back in for 2 days, 485/AP/EAD applied and my jobless days were with my EAD in hand.
4. One of the reasons, I am against outsourcing companies is that they dump low wage workers. If you guys are aware, every country, including India and US, has anti dumping laws to protect local industries. I am not against offshoring or outsourcing but I am against dumping. Some posters have questioned how I would be affected by all this if I were the among the best and the brightest ? Valid question to a good extent. If you realize that as you age your speed and dexterity at which one adopts newer skills start waning. How long do you think that upgrading skills in a single industry would be possible when you are going to be constantly competing with walmart style options ?
For now I have chosen to enroll myself in an MBA program and I am hoping that my skills wouldn't be diluted. Think about going to school at age 35 with the responsibility of family and kid. This is my last ditch effort in upgrading my skills because it involves a substantial ownpayment. I am not sure about you guys but a 100K investment for school now is huge for me. The big question is, I am able to pull up my last bit of energy to upgrade now but will it be possible 5 years now if these outsourcing companies starting dumping low cost MBAs ? This is what I meant by my quality of life being impacted. If you guys think that you wouldnt go through the same scenario, then you need some serious retrospection.
One last thing I would like to point out the inherent contradiction that the current prospective immigrants are facing today. GC is a process that is there to fill in the lack of skills in the US. However with unemployment running close to 10%, the question arises as to whether to train local populace for these skills. There are just 2 exits out of this contradiction
1. Bring in low cost labor to fulfill this shortage and avoid local training costs
2. Expand on a new idea. Green seems to be the buzzword today.
In my opinion, option 1 is lose lose situation for all including the actual foreign employee who provides the services at a low cost. It is the outsourcing company for sure and probably the hiring company that may benefit. The society as a whole loses. Option 2 is an organic option but is laen with the dangers of delays in take off and boom and bust cycles. This is exactly the reason why I suggested that we cut these outsourcing cs from dumping bodies here. I hope I have clarified my opinions lucidly and hopefully look forward to a mature discussion as opposed to name calling, affronts etc.
The moment you were forced to enroll in MBA in an effort to upgrade your skills and increase your salary means American model and (comparative advantage) economics are working.
The same thing happened in agriculture, then manufacturing, and now IT and other industries. It is inevitable!
By the way, it is not dumping. Here is the real definition of dumping, "the act of a manufacturer in one country exporting a product to another country at a price which is either below the price it charges in its home market or is below its costs of production".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping_(pricing_policy)
For your information, I was, am and will most likely continue to be affected by the outsourcing/offshoring/onshoring/immigration/etc.
I am simply stumped at the level of comprehension of the folks right here. Let me summarize my views as points and hopefully I will get through to you guys
1. My mention of BITS was not to prove that I was the best and the brightest. It was to prove that my education was NOT subsidized by the govt of India directly or indirectly. Remember passing out of any university doesnt confer the title of the best and the brightest. Unseenguy - If you have kicked the ass of IITians, bitsians etc then consider yourselves genuine. Why this unnecessary trip down "Not confident about myself lane" ?
2. My mention of MSFT was again not to prove that I am part of the best and rightest. It was to prove that I came here not with the value proposition of low costs but with the value proposition of hardwork and some talent. I did not compromise on my pay or did replace any native employee. Oh BTW I left MSFT in 2000
3. My mention of the 3 layoffs and my journey was to inform you guys that whatever is happening now is similar to whatever happened in 2001. I wanted to calm down the nerves of the genuine people. Without reading and comprehending the posts, I get responses like that I was an illegal. Remember I was taken back in for 2 days, 485/AP/EAD applied and my jobless days were with my EAD in hand.
4. One of the reasons, I am against outsourcing companies is that they dump low wage workers. If you guys are aware, every country, including India and US, has anti dumping laws to protect local industries. I am not against offshoring or outsourcing but I am against dumping. Some posters have questioned how I would be affected by all this if I were the among the best and the brightest ? Valid question to a good extent. If you realize that as you age your speed and dexterity at which one adopts newer skills start waning. How long do you think that upgrading skills in a single industry would be possible when you are going to be constantly competing with walmart style options ?
For now I have chosen to enroll myself in an MBA program and I am hoping that my skills wouldn't be diluted. Think about going to school at age 35 with the responsibility of family and kid. This is my last ditch effort in upgrading my skills because it involves a substantial ownpayment. I am not sure about you guys but a 100K investment for school now is huge for me. The big question is, I am able to pull up my last bit of energy to upgrade now but will it be possible 5 years now if these outsourcing companies starting dumping low cost MBAs ? This is what I meant by my quality of life being impacted. If you guys think that you wouldnt go through the same scenario, then you need some serious retrospection.
One last thing I would like to point out the inherent contradiction that the current prospective immigrants are facing today. GC is a process that is there to fill in the lack of skills in the US. However with unemployment running close to 10%, the question arises as to whether to train local populace for these skills. There are just 2 exits out of this contradiction
1. Bring in low cost labor to fulfill this shortage and avoid local training costs
2. Expand on a new idea. Green seems to be the buzzword today.
In my opinion, option 1 is lose lose situation for all including the actual foreign employee who provides the services at a low cost. It is the outsourcing company for sure and probably the hiring company that may benefit. The society as a whole loses. Option 2 is an organic option but is laen with the dangers of delays in take off and boom and bust cycles. This is exactly the reason why I suggested that we cut these outsourcing cs from dumping bodies here. I hope I have clarified my opinions lucidly and hopefully look forward to a mature discussion as opposed to name calling, affronts etc.
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chanduv23
07-04 08:36 AM
Macaca, pappu and gang - can we compile a funny animation cartoon with a message in flash and upload it on youtube?
I have flash on my laptop, if someone can give me the material, I can compile a slideshow ???? Any thoughts??
I have flash on my laptop, if someone can give me the material, I can compile a slideshow ???? Any thoughts??
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mallu
05-14 03:09 AM
http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/may/14it.htm
Are those returned due to --ssed of immigration system here ?
Are those returned due to --ssed of immigration system here ?
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Legal_Guy_HiTech_Slave
09-22 06:11 PM
Hello Friends,
I am going through a wierd situation with my GC process. Not that the EB3 PD is retrogressed but a different one. Silly it sounds. Please help me in making a right decision. Thank you in advance for your suggestions.
EB3 category.
PD : April 15,2003.
Labor: approved.
I-140: approved.
I-485: Only registered the application,FP done. Not applied for EAD,AP and others as I was not married at the "All gates open time in 2007"
My Wierd Situation / Issue: I was not married at the time when all categories were current in Jul/Aug 2007 and so I had only applied for myself for the application to register for 485 process (Main application), submitted my medicals, Submitted my DOB certificates and completed the 485 adjustment of status registration. I got married at the end of 2007 and got my all Finger Prints completed in December 2007. Now my wife is here on H4 and dont know if I should keep continue my 485 just to keep the file active or wait untill my PD is current (NO HOPES may be in my next life as it is EB3) and apply along with my wife. PLEASE help me with your valuable suggestions. I just want to be safe because I have been working here for 10 years on H1B visa and tired of this immigration rules and litigations.
I am going through a wierd situation with my GC process. Not that the EB3 PD is retrogressed but a different one. Silly it sounds. Please help me in making a right decision. Thank you in advance for your suggestions.
EB3 category.
PD : April 15,2003.
Labor: approved.
I-140: approved.
I-485: Only registered the application,FP done. Not applied for EAD,AP and others as I was not married at the "All gates open time in 2007"
My Wierd Situation / Issue: I was not married at the time when all categories were current in Jul/Aug 2007 and so I had only applied for myself for the application to register for 485 process (Main application), submitted my medicals, Submitted my DOB certificates and completed the 485 adjustment of status registration. I got married at the end of 2007 and got my all Finger Prints completed in December 2007. Now my wife is here on H4 and dont know if I should keep continue my 485 just to keep the file active or wait untill my PD is current (NO HOPES may be in my next life as it is EB3) and apply along with my wife. PLEASE help me with your valuable suggestions. I just want to be safe because I have been working here for 10 years on H1B visa and tired of this immigration rules and litigations.
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kondur_007
01-13 08:45 PM
This indeed is a very bad news. It looks to me that someone is frying a bigger fish here...
If antis target the areas of immigration that are no "well defined" so far (H1b rules is one example, another could be AC21 same or similar job and yet another could be "permanent job" after greencard), it could create a lot of problems and may even practically shut down all legal immigration.
This will only increat outsourcing and actually hurt US economy and jobs...too bad that "blinded" politicians do not recognize this.
If antis target the areas of immigration that are no "well defined" so far (H1b rules is one example, another could be AC21 same or similar job and yet another could be "permanent job" after greencard), it could create a lot of problems and may even practically shut down all legal immigration.
This will only increat outsourcing and actually hurt US economy and jobs...too bad that "blinded" politicians do not recognize this.
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chanduv23
05-29 03:45 PM
Folks - here is the thing. lets work towards fixing our issues.
If people feel USCIS must know about EB1 fraud or other stuff, there are enough people to write to them and if people want to write to USCIS - no one stops them from writing.
As such, so many people write about different things - people write about eb2 - people write about consulting companies etc... So if you wish to do what you want to do you can do it.
Remember - when you make a claim that someone is falsfying or breaking law you must present facts and explain properly as to why you think it is not right and why you think you are affected by this.
Now when you do this - someone can definitely write why they think what YOU are doing is not right and why there are issues with your application.
IV focuses on advocacy - together we resolve our issues. Things like employer not paying salary, employer benching, cheating etc... are things IV members must collectively deal with andhelp themselves.
Things like wrongful denials when used AC21, poor customer service etc... are ones IV members can collectively resolve and IV helps
Things like organizing grassroots efforts, job networking, help networks, lobbying etc... are the kind of things IV stands for.
If people feel USCIS must know about EB1 fraud or other stuff, there are enough people to write to them and if people want to write to USCIS - no one stops them from writing.
As such, so many people write about different things - people write about eb2 - people write about consulting companies etc... So if you wish to do what you want to do you can do it.
Remember - when you make a claim that someone is falsfying or breaking law you must present facts and explain properly as to why you think it is not right and why you think you are affected by this.
Now when you do this - someone can definitely write why they think what YOU are doing is not right and why there are issues with your application.
IV focuses on advocacy - together we resolve our issues. Things like employer not paying salary, employer benching, cheating etc... are things IV members must collectively deal with andhelp themselves.
Things like wrongful denials when used AC21, poor customer service etc... are ones IV members can collectively resolve and IV helps
Things like organizing grassroots efforts, job networking, help networks, lobbying etc... are the kind of things IV stands for.
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hiralal
06-17 01:50 PM
what is surprising that one person ..dilipcr ..in this case ..is able to divert the attention of the members.
in other words, maybe in future, one anti-immigrant can pose as dilip ..keep a senseless debate alive ..and divert attention.
---------- are we doing this because there are no visible big campaigns alive ? or does it mean that if we defeat Dilip in this debate then we will get our GC's (please note I am not following this thread ...though I was initially),.. Thanks
in other words, maybe in future, one anti-immigrant can pose as dilip ..keep a senseless debate alive ..and divert attention.
---------- are we doing this because there are no visible big campaigns alive ? or does it mean that if we defeat Dilip in this debate then we will get our GC's (please note I am not following this thread ...though I was initially),.. Thanks
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ryan
08-18 03:43 PM
Guys,
In my humble opinion this is the best thing that could have happened!!! I feel bad for Mr. Khan suffering like a common man for a while but his suffering brought to light what we have to deal with every time we travel... ace
"Everytime"?
I've been pulled aside once, in the nearly 7 years I've lived here. I've never had to go through any sort of 'suffering' -- nobody humiliated, beat me up or threw me in some dungeon, and likewise with any of my friends (and I have friends of different nationalities and religion)
I was asked the routine stuff - why I'm visiting the US - who I work for, where I live, how long have I been in the US and if I have family here. They asked, I respond - and that was that. The tone wasn't the most cordial nor was it demeaning. It's not a popularity contest. The key is to not take things personally. I have a lot of respect for President Kalam. He sure did Indians and people in general, proud. Now, please, give it a rest.
In my humble opinion this is the best thing that could have happened!!! I feel bad for Mr. Khan suffering like a common man for a while but his suffering brought to light what we have to deal with every time we travel... ace
"Everytime"?
I've been pulled aside once, in the nearly 7 years I've lived here. I've never had to go through any sort of 'suffering' -- nobody humiliated, beat me up or threw me in some dungeon, and likewise with any of my friends (and I have friends of different nationalities and religion)
I was asked the routine stuff - why I'm visiting the US - who I work for, where I live, how long have I been in the US and if I have family here. They asked, I respond - and that was that. The tone wasn't the most cordial nor was it demeaning. It's not a popularity contest. The key is to not take things personally. I have a lot of respect for President Kalam. He sure did Indians and people in general, proud. Now, please, give it a rest.
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07-10 11:16 AM
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at0474
12-13 02:15 PM
"There is no "reservation", the nature of the clause is a cap, it does not give another country a minimum quota, it is written as a restrictive provision. and again- just because it benefits someone else does not make discrimination "right", in the strictest sense. right and wrong when it comes to discrimination are not relative. and if you believe they are, it's mighty slippery slope my friend because it does not take time to find yourself on the other side."
--You have decided to coin the country cap quota as discrimination. After you take that position, everything you said seem difficult to challenge. Yes, you are absolutely right that "rights and wrongs" are not relative when you are discriminating against someone. You are also spot on that discrimination cannot be justified because it benefits others.
"you sound suspiciously supportive of the caste system. i will say it again. such a system is wrong. i do not care which side of the fence you are on. was depriving blacks from voting wrong? or was it ok from the white side of the fence? please think before you post."
--Why bother assuming opponent's position? What system I support doesn't add a jot to what we are discussing here. Depriving blacks from voting and not giving a greencard to you (inline with a bangladeshi) doesn't seem to hold any water. Let alone whites being "ok" with it, when you walk down the street with a bangladeshi, I hardly suspect if they can even identify you by your nationality.
"please think before you post"
--Let me try!!Hmmmmm!!! Nah!! IMHO, We cannot call country cap for EB categories as discrimination. Is it reflecting discrepencies in its implementation? Sure...no system works to justify its underlying intent accurately. Nevertheless, an attempt is made. Hence we call it a process. Harping against USCIS that it is plain discrimination is not going to get us anywhere. As times change, they have to change the policies to suit the prevaling circumstances as well. In the long run, if every other immigrant is a bangladeshi, I am sure they will be taken out from the diversity lottery program.
--You have decided to coin the country cap quota as discrimination. After you take that position, everything you said seem difficult to challenge. Yes, you are absolutely right that "rights and wrongs" are not relative when you are discriminating against someone. You are also spot on that discrimination cannot be justified because it benefits others.
"you sound suspiciously supportive of the caste system. i will say it again. such a system is wrong. i do not care which side of the fence you are on. was depriving blacks from voting wrong? or was it ok from the white side of the fence? please think before you post."
--Why bother assuming opponent's position? What system I support doesn't add a jot to what we are discussing here. Depriving blacks from voting and not giving a greencard to you (inline with a bangladeshi) doesn't seem to hold any water. Let alone whites being "ok" with it, when you walk down the street with a bangladeshi, I hardly suspect if they can even identify you by your nationality.
"please think before you post"
--Let me try!!Hmmmmm!!! Nah!! IMHO, We cannot call country cap for EB categories as discrimination. Is it reflecting discrepencies in its implementation? Sure...no system works to justify its underlying intent accurately. Nevertheless, an attempt is made. Hence we call it a process. Harping against USCIS that it is plain discrimination is not going to get us anywhere. As times change, they have to change the policies to suit the prevaling circumstances as well. In the long run, if every other immigrant is a bangladeshi, I am sure they will be taken out from the diversity lottery program.
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hiralal
06-11 11:04 PM
your views are correct and analysis looks o.k. too the problem is even the genuine ones get flushed away ..survival of the fittest is not working now at all !!! say a person from worldwide comes in eb3 and say he is just a car mechanic (I know few from south korea who are in this situation) ..they get GC faster than Indian / Chinese EB2 / EB3 applicant (with 10 years experience and good bank balance)
and Karma means ..do your work / duty and don't worry about results ..we need that ..i.e SEVERAL SMALL Campaigns (since big is not possible now due to members leaving IV / getting dejected that nothing is happening etc etc
let us not analyze and discuss too much ..we talk a lot and hence the karma that we get is more talk from so called Experts ..lets do numerous small campaigns ..at the very least people will start coming back to IV plus new memberships
again people are discussing the past and getting stuck in it and my post gets buried ..friends are you listening ??? enough talk !!!!!
and Karma means ..do your work / duty and don't worry about results ..we need that ..i.e SEVERAL SMALL Campaigns (since big is not possible now due to members leaving IV / getting dejected that nothing is happening etc etc
let us not analyze and discuss too much ..we talk a lot and hence the karma that we get is more talk from so called Experts ..lets do numerous small campaigns ..at the very least people will start coming back to IV plus new memberships
again people are discussing the past and getting stuck in it and my post gets buried ..friends are you listening ??? enough talk !!!!!
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vadicherla
09-04 01:37 AM
If you had a laugh on my post good for you. Should have given you some relief from YSR's death. I have been laughing, smiling and eating sweets since I knew the news.
Conformed you brain got damaged and you will die soon.
Will distribute sweets after you death
Conformed you brain got damaged and you will die soon.
Will distribute sweets after you death
ramus
07-03 09:43 PM
No problem.. Fund drive is important ...
sorry :D
this one time pls allow us to post contribution thread here..
sorry :D
this one time pls allow us to post contribution thread here..
yabadaba
08-04 03:05 PM
seriously...when we are done with our current task of retrogression relief we should modify IV's goals to ensure that loopholes like labor substitution are eliminated.
let us get credible as a citizen effort for fair, reliable and efficient immigration process.
let us get credible as a citizen effort for fair, reliable and efficient immigration process.
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